特拉华州AR15求救贴,急急急

我在特拉华州Delaware,今天去枪店买了把LWRC的AR15,枪店的ffl说没问题,我才购买的,没有问清楚,回来朋友和我说去年2002年6月30号出了个众议院450法案( House Bill 450),我回去看了才知道,特拉华州不允许购买,出售,运输攻击武器,现在枪还没拿回来,但是今天已经做了背景调查,明天ffl一开门,我就去取消订单,这样对我以后买枪会不会有影响?取消订单后,要不要去FBI说明下情况?疯狂郁闷中,求解,法案里是所有例外都和我无关。
法案内容: The Delaware Lethal Firearms Safety Act of 2022 prohibits the manufacture, sale, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, receipt, possession, or transport of assault weapons in Delaware, subject to certain exceptions. One exception is that the Act does not prohibit the possession and transport of firearms that were lawfully possessed or purchased before the effective date of this Act; although for these firearms there are certain restrictions relating to their possession and transport after the effective date of this Act. There are also exceptions for law-enforcement and military personnel in the course of their official duties, and a limited exception for retired law-enforcement personnel. Finally, a person lawfully in possession of an assault weapon prior to the passage of this Act may lawfully transfer the weapon to a member of their family, through inheritance or otherwise. The Act directs the Department of Safety and Homeland Security to develop a procedure for issuance of a voluntary certificate of possession to show lawful possession of an assault weapon prior to the effective date of the Act. A gun owner is not required to apply for the certificate, but a certificate provides a conclusive means of proving lawful possession prior to the passage of this Act. The Department is not permitted to retain copies of issued certificates or identifying information of any applicant. The Act also adds a violation of this Act to the list of predicate crimes for possession of a weapon in a school zone.

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这种情况还从来没有见过,类似都没有见过。就是:有这么糊涂的FFL?
他们这样搞几次,自己的执照可能都会被吊销把?

不是来挖坑的就是买错枪了,估计你从头到尾都不知道自己在干什么

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你还别说 我以前也不敢相信 直到前两天听我一个朋友说他在网上买的ar在他ffl当天填完表就拿走了
我听完下巴颏都惊掉了 我那朋友也不知道华州rifle有10天wait period 反正ffl让他拿走就拿走了 :joy:

我就是想把每大类的枪都买上一把.

你这来问也没用啊 除非有谁是你所在州的法律专业人士
这里的建议你也就看个乐呵得了还能当真的?
买枪前了解当地法律是你的责任 不知道自己在干啥出事了也怪不了别人

理论上来说现在也只是只是背景调查
4473是商家留底上面才会说你买了啥枪 但是也不会写你具体买了啥

大不了就算背调过了不拿走呗问题应该不大…吧

楼上的,你先搞清楚什么叫做“攻击性武器”再说。

仔细学习下,在你们州法律定义里面的“assault weapons” 是什么玩应。

我个人觉得LZ买的应该是阉割版的AR,不算攻击性武器。因为如果禁了,local FFL一般根本不会摆个原版(非阉割版)的AR在枪架上,除非那一块柜台算是执法部门section,也就是只有警察才能买的枪。local FFL不可能那么傻。LZ可以去问一问FFL买的是不是特州legal。

阉割版的也不行,我今天去取消订单了
禁令枪支:Section 1. Amend Subchapter VII, Chapter 5, Title 11 of the Delaware Code by making deletions as shown by strike through and insertions as shown by underline as follows:

§§ 1462 -1469. [Reserved.]

§ 1463. Definitions related to assault weapons.

For purposes of this section and §§ 1464 and 1465 of this title:

(1) “Ammunition feeding device” means any magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that holds ammunition for a firearm.

(2) “Assault long gun” means any of the following or a copy, regardless of the producer or manufacturer:

a. American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine.

b. Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format, including the AK-47 in all forms.

c. Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto.

d. AR 100 type semi-auto.

e. AR 180 type semi-auto.

f. Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto.

g. Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto.

h. Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics.

i. Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto.

j. Beretta AR70 type semi-auto.

k. Bushmaster semi-auto rifle.

l . Calico models M-100 and M-900.

m. CIS SR 88 type semi-auto.

n. Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines.

o. Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle.

p. Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2.

q. Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto.

r. Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber).

s. Feather AT-9 semi-auto.

t. FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle.

u. FNC semi-auto type carbine.

v. F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun.

w. Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto.

x. Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto.

y. Heckler and Koch HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3.

z. Holmes model 88 shotgun.

aa. Manchester Arms “Commando” MK-45, MK-9.

bb. Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine.

cc. Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun.

dd. Sterling Mark 6.

ee. P.A.W.S. carbine.

ff. Ruger mini-14 tactical rifle.

gg. SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber).

hh. SKS with detachable magazine.

ii. AP-74 Commando type semi-auto.

jj. Springfield Armory BM-59, SAR-48, G3, SAR-3, M-21 sniper rifle, and M1A, excluding the M1 Garand.

kk. Street sweeper assault type shotgun.

ll . Striker 12 assault shotgun in all formats.

mm. Unique F11 semi-auto type.

nn. Daewoo USAS 12 semi-auto shotgun.

oo. UZI 9mm carbine or rifle.

pp. Valmet M-76 and M-78 semi-auto.

qq. Weaver Arms “Nighthawk” semi-auto carbine.

rr. Wilkinson Arms 9mm semi-auto “Terry”.

(2) “Assault pistol” means any of the following or a copy, regardless of the producer or manufacturer:

a. AA Arms AP-9 pistol.

b. Beretta 93R pistol.

c. Bushmaster pistol.

d. Claridge HI-TEC pistol.

e. D Max Industries pistol.

f. EKO Cobra pistol.

g. Encom MK-IV, MP-9, or MP-45 pistol.

h. Heckler and Koch MP5K, MP7, SP-89, or VP70 pistol.

i. Holmes MP-83 pistol.

j. Ingram MAC 10/11 pistol and variations, including the Partisan Avenger and the SWD Cobray.

k . Intratec TEC-9/DC-9 pistol in any centerfire variation.

l . P.A.W.S. type pistol.

m. Skorpion pistol.

n. Spectre double action pistol (Sile, F.I.E., Mitchell).

o. Stechkin automatic pistol.

p. Steyer tactical pistol.

q. UZI pistol.

r. Weaver Arms Nighthawk pistol.

s. Wilkinson “Linda” pistol.

(3) “Assault weapon” means any of the following:

a. An assault long gun.

b. An assault pistol.

c. A copycat weapon.

(4) “Copycat weapon” means any of the following:

a. A semiautomatic centerfire rifle that can accept a detachable magazine and has any 2 of the following:

  1. A folding stock.

  2. A grenade launcher or flare launcher.

  3. A flash suppressor.

  4. A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.

b. A semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

c. A semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 29 inches.

d. A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

e. A semiautomatic shotgun that has a folding stock.

f. A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

(5) “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from a firearm without requiring disassembly of the firearm action or without the use of a tool, including a bullet or cartridge.

(6) “Flash suppressor” means a device that functions, or is intended to function, to perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter’s field of vision.

(7) “Qualified retired law-enforcement officer” means as defined in § 1441B(c) of this title.

(8) “Shooting range” means any land or structure used and operated in accordance with all applicable laws and ordinances for the shooting of targets for training, education, practice, recreation, or competition.

(9) “Grenade launcher” means a device designed to fire, launch, or propel a grenade.

(10) “Secure storage” means a firearm that is stored in a locked container or equipped with a tamper resistant mechanical lock or other safety device that is properly engaged so as to render the firearm inoperable by a person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user.

§ 1464. Manufacture, sale, transport, transfer, purchase, receipt, and possession of assault weapons; class E or F felony.

(a) Prohibitions. - Except as provided in subsection (b) or (c) of this section, it is unlawful for a person to do any of the following:

(1) Transport an assault weapon into this State.

(2) Manufacture, sell, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, receive, or possess an assault weapon.

(b) Applicability - This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) The following individuals, if acting within the scope of official business:

a. Personnel of the United States government or a unit of that government.

b. Members of the armed forces of the United States or of the National Guard.

c. A law-enforcement officer.

(2) An assault weapon modified to render it permanently inoperative.

(3) Possession, importation, manufacture, receipt for manufacture, shipment for manufacture, storage, purchases, sales, and transport to or by a licensed firearms dealer or manufacturer who does any of the following:

a. Provides or services an assault weapon for a law-enforcement agency of this State or for personnel exempted under paragraph (b)(1) of this section.

b. Acts to sell or transfer an assault weapon to a licensed firearm dealer in another state or to an individual purchaser in another state through a licensed firearms dealer.

c. Acts to return to a customer in another state an assault weapon transferred to the licensed firearms dealer or manufacturer under the terms of a warranty or for repair.

(4) Organizations that are required or authorized by federal law governing their specific business or activity to maintain assault weapons.

(5) The receipt of an assault weapon by inheritance, and possession of the inherited assault weapon, if the decedent lawfully possessed the assault weapon and the person inheriting the assault weapon is not otherwise a person prohibited under § 1448 of this title.

(6) The receipt of an assault weapon by a personal representative of an estate for purposes of exercising the powers and duties of a personal representative of an estate.

(7) Possession by a qualified retired law-enforcement officer who is not otherwise prohibited from receiving an assault weapon if either of the following applies:

a. The assault weapon is sold or transferred to the qualified retired law-enforcement officer by the law-enforcement agency on retirement.

b. The assault weapon was purchased or obtained by the qualified retired law-enforcement officer for official use with the law-enforcement agency before retirement.

(8) Possession or transport by an armored car guard, as defined in § 1302 of Title 24, if the armored car guard is acting within the scope of employment with an armored car agency, as defined under § 1302 of Title 24, and is licensed under Chapter 13 of Title 24.

(9) Possession, receipt, and testing by, or shipping to or from any of the following:

a. An ISO 17025 accredited, National Institute of Justice-approved ballistics testing laboratory.

b. A facility or entity that manufactures or provides research and development testing, analysis, or engineering for personal protective equipment or vehicle protection systems.

(c) Exceptions. -

(1) A licensed firearms dealer may continue to do all of the following with an assault weapon that the licensed firearms dealer lawfully possessed on or before [the effective date of this Act]:

a. Possess the assault weapon.

b. Sell the assault weapon or offer the assault weapon for sale. But, the licensed firearms dealer may only sell the assault weapon or offer the assault weapon for sale as permitted under paragraph (b)(3)b. of this section.

c. Transfer the assault weapon. But, the licensed firearms dealer may only transfer the assault weapon as permitted by paragraph (b)(3)b. or (b)(3)c. of this section or by paragraph (d)(2)b. of this section.

(2)a. A licensed firearms dealer may take possession of an assault weapon from a person who lawfully possessed the assault weapon before [the effective date of this Act] for the purposes of servicing or repairing the assault weapon.

b. A licensed firearms dealer may transfer possession of an assault weapon received under paragraph (c)(2)a. of this section for purposes of accomplishing service or repair of the assault weapon.

(3) A person who lawfully possessed, had a purchase order for, or completed an application to purchase an assault weapon before [the effective date of this Act], may possess and transport the assault weapon on or after [the effective date of this Act] only under the following circumstances:

a. At that person’s residence, place of business, or other property owned by that person, or on property owned by another person with the owner’s express permission.

b. While on the premises of a shooting range.

c. While attending any exhibition, display, or educational project that is about firearms and that is sponsored by, conducted under the auspices of, or approved by a law-enforcement agency or a nationally or state recognized entity that fosters proficiency in, or promotes education about, firearms.

d. While transporting the assault weapon between any of the places set forth in this this paragraph (c)(3) of this section, or to any licensed firearms dealer for servicing or repair under paragraph (c)(2) of this section, if the person places the assault weapon in secure storage.

(4) A person may transport an assault weapon to or from any of the following if the person places the assault weapon in secure storage:

a. An ISO 17025 accredited, National Institute of Justice-approved ballistics testing laboratory.

b. A facility or entity that manufactures or provides research and development testing, analysis, or engineering for personal protective equipment or vehicle protection systems.

(5) The transfer of an assault weapon from the person owning the assault weapon to a family member, and possession of the transferred assault weapon, if the person lawfully possessed the assault weapon and the family member to whom the assault weapon is transferred is not otherwise a person prohibited under § 1448 of this title. For purposes of this paragraph, “family member” means a spouse or an individual related by consanguinity within the third degree as determined by the common law.

(d) Penalty. - A violation of this section is a class F felony for a first offense and a class E felony for any subsequent offense within 10 years of a prior offense.

(e) Disposal. - A law-enforcement agency in possession of a person’s assault weapon as a result of an arrest under this section shall dispose of the assault weapon under the process established for deadly weapons and ammunition under § 2311 of this title following the person’s adjudication of delinquency or conviction under this section or by the person’s agreement to forfeit the assault weapon under an agreement to plead delinquent or guilty to another offense.

§ 1465. Voluntary certificate of possession.

(a) A person who is exempt from § 1464(a) of this title under § 1464(c) of this title may, no later than 1 year from the [effective date of this Act], apply to the Secretary of the Department of Safety and Homeland Security for a certificate of possession.

(b) A certificate of possession is conclusive evidence that person lawfully possessed, had a purchase order for, or completed an application to purchase an assault weapon before [the effective date of this Act] and is entitled to continue to possess and transport the assault weapon on or after [the effective date of this Act] under § 1464(c)(3) of this title.

(c) The Secretary of the Department of Safety and Homeland Security shall promulgate regulations to establish procedures with respect to the application for and issuance of certificates of possession for assault weapons that are lawfully owned and possessed by person [the effective date of this Act]. Regulations under this subsection must include all of the following:

(1) That the application contain proof that the person lawfully possessed, had a purchase order for, or completed an application to purchase an assault weapon before [the effective date of this Act].

(2) That the certificate of possession must contain a description of the assault weapon, including the make, model, and serial number. For an assault weapon manufactured before 1968, identifying marks may be substituted for the serial number required by paragraph (c)(1) of this section.

(3) That the certificate of possession must contain the full name, address, date of birth, and thumbprint of the person who owns the assault weapon, and any other information the Secretary deems appropriate.

(4) That the name and address of the person issued a certificate of possession is confidential and may not be disclosed, except to a law-enforcement agency and its employees acting in the performance of official duties.

(5) That the Secretary shall make certificates of possession available in a searchable, centralized database, to any state or federal law enforcement agency to be used only for valid law enforcement purposes.

(d) A certificate of possession only authorizes the possession of an assault weapon specified in the certificate by the resident to whom the Secretary issued the certificate.

(e) A person in possession of multiple assault weapons on [the effective date of this Act] must apply for a separate certificate for each assault weapon the person wants to certify lawfully possessed, had a purchase order for, or completed an application to purchase an assault weapon before [the effective date of this Act].

§§ 1466 – 1469. [Reserved.]

Section 2. Amend § 1457, Title 11 of the Delaware Code by making deletions as shown by strike through and insertions as shown by underline as follows:

§ 1457. Possession of a weapon in a Safe School and Recreation Zone; class D, E, or F felony; class A or B misdemeanor.

(a) Any person who commits any of the offenses described in subsection (b) of this section, or any juvenile who possesses a firearm or other deadly weapon, and does so while in or on a “Safe School and Recreation Zone” shall be guilty of the crime of possession of a weapon in a Safe School and Recreation Zone.

(b) The underlying offenses in Title 11 shall be:

(1) Section 1442. — Carrying a concealed deadly weapon; class G felony; class D felony.

(2) Section 1444. — Possessing a destructive weapon; class E felony.

(3) Section 1446. — Unlawfully dealing with a switchblade knife; unclassified misdemeanor.

(4) Section 1448. — Possession and purchase of deadly weapons by persons prohibited; class F felony.

(5) Section 1452. — Unlawfully dealing with knuckles-combination knife; class B misdemeanor.

(6) Section 1453. — Unlawfully dealing with martial arts throwing star; class B misdemeanor.

(7) Section 1464. – Manufacture, sale, transport, transfer, purchase, receipt, or possession of assault weapons; class E or F felony.

Section 3. If any provision of this Act or the application of this Act to any person or circumstance is held invalid, the provisions of this Act are severable if the invalidity does not affect the other provisions or applications of the Act which can be given effect without the invalid provision or application.

Section 4. This Act is to be known as the “Delaware Assault Weapons Prohibition Act of 2019.”

Section 5. This Act takes effect 60 days after its enactment into law.

SYNOPSIS

This Act prohibits the manufacture, sale, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, receipt, possession, or transport of assault weapons in Delaware, subject to certain exceptions. One exception relevant to individuals is that the Act does not prohibit the possession and transport of firearms that were lawfully possessed or fully applied for before the effective date of this Act; although for these firearms there are certain restrictions relating to their possession and transport after the effective date of this Act. This Act creates a voluntary certificate of possession, to enable persons who lawfully possess an assault weapon before the effective date of this Act to be able to prove ownership after the effective date of this Act.

This Act is based on the Firearm Safety Act of 2013 (“FSA”) passed in Maryland in the wake of the tragic slaughtering of children on December 14, 2012, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The FSA’s assault weapons ban was upheld as constitutional on February 21, 2017, by the full membership of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, in the case of Kolbe v. Hogan, 849 F.3d 114 (4th Cir. 2017).

The names Newtown, Aurora, San Bernardino, Orlando, Las Vegas, and Parkland, among others, have become synonymous with tragic killing of innocent, unsuspecting Americans of all ages and backgrounds, amidst a framework of federal and state laws that have permitted the purchase of weapons designed for the battlefield — not for our schools, our theaters, our places of worship, or our homes.

Safety — both for the general public, as well as members of Delaware’s law-enforcement community — is the objective of this Act, as it was for the FSA. And, as with the FSA, a primary goal of this Act is to reduce the availability of assault weapons so that when a criminal acts, he or she does so with a less dangerous weapon and less severe consequences.

Relying on United States Supreme Court precedent from District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), as well as the holdings of its sister circuits, the full Fourth Circuit concluded that the assault weapons banned by the FSA are not protected by the Second Amendment. The Fourth Circuit was convinced that the banned assault weapons are among those arms that are “like” “M-16 rifles” — “weapons that are most useful in military service” — which the Heller Court singled out as being beyond the Second Amendment’s reach.

The Fourth Circuit concluded that Maryland had presented extensive uncontroverted evidence demonstrating that the assault weapons outlawed by the FSA are exceptionally lethal weapons of war. The Fourth Circuit also concluded that the evidence showed the difference between the fully automatic and semiautomatic versions of military-style weapons is slight. Further evidence considered by the Fourth Circuit that motivates this Act is as follows:

(1) Like their fully automatic counterparts, the banned assault weapons are firearms designed for the battlefield, for the soldier to be able to shoot a large number of rounds across a battlefield at a high rate of speed, and that their design results in a capability for lethality — more wounds, more serious, in more victims — far beyond that of other firearms in general, including other semiautomatic guns.

(2) The banned assault weapons have been used disproportionately to their ownership in mass shootings and the murders of law-enforcement officers.

(3) The banned assault weapons further pose a heightened risk to civilians in that rounds from assault weapons have the ability to easily penetrate most materials used in standard home construction, car doors, and similar materials, and that criminals armed with the banned assault weapons possess a “military-style advantage” in firefights with law-enforcement officers, as such weapons allow criminals to effectively engage law-enforcement officers from great distances and their rounds easily pass through the soft body armor worn by most law-enforcement officers.

(4) Although self-defense is a conceivable use of the banned assault weapons, most individuals choose to keep other firearms for that purpose.

(5) Prohibitions against assault weapons will promote public safety by reducing the availability of those armaments to mass shooters and other criminals, by diminishing their especial threat to law-enforcement officers, and by hindering their unintentional misuse by civilians.

(6) In many situations, the semiautomatic fire of an assault weapon is more accurate and lethal than the automatic fire.

Finding this evidence and these conclusions by the Fourth Circuit to be strongly persuasive of the applicable framework of constitutional rights, and firmly believing that promoting the safety of the Delaware public and Delaware law-enforcement is a paramount function of the Delaware General Assembly, Delaware legislators file this Act in the name of public safety and with adherence to core constitutional principles.

踩个脚印,蹲一个后续

What a shit hole :poop:

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。。。发法律关键之处的摘要就行了,原文发个链接,没必要搞这一大坨上来。

你可能没有听懂我说的。我说的阉割版就是指没有那些assaul weapon feature的,所以就不算攻击性武器了。你贴这么一大堆,说的还是攻击性武器的定义,比如AR15有可拆卸弹匣的。我说的阉割版就包括那种固定弹匣的AR15,就不再算攻击性武器了。
反正我是非常怀疑你们那边local FFL在禁了之后还在柜台上摆攻击性武器的。
你有没有打电话问FFL,你买的那个可能就不是攻击性武器。

我明白你的意思,你仔细看,你说的阉割版,固定弹夹,或10发弹夹之类都不行,第二条o选项Colt AR-15、CAR-15 和除 Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR 步枪外的所有仿制品。上面说的所有仿制品

那你再去看看第四条,说那些仿制品是指什么。
如果没有第四条列的那些特征的,都算合法,也就是本站俗称的阉割版。
你到底有没有问你那个FFL啊?

这,,到底算谁的错,FFL的错吧。
而且真还有这么不懂地方控枪法的FFL?开眼界了。
他们这些下次丢执照都不知道怎么丢的。 :thinking:

刚才仔细看了下特拉华的code,原以为是ca哪种9那个割鸡鸡的做法,类似这种。

结果是这个
https://legis.delaware.gov/json/BillDetail/GenerateHtmlDocument?legislationId=47326&legislationTypeId=1&docTypeId=2&legislationName=SB68

默哀

只能玩straight-pull了

这个结果比CA还惨,我都郁闷了,算了本来买来也是玩的,钱省下来了,也是件开心的事

啰里啰嗦一大堆, 直接把半自动步枪都禁了不是更省事?